Precise Puppy 5.7.1

Precise 5.7 was released only a couple of days ago! Well, we found some bugs, hence 5.7.1 is a bug-fix release.

The announcement for 5.7 is here:
http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00340

Download 5.7.1 here:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.7.1/

The detailed release notes:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precise-5.7.1/release-Precise-5.7.1.htm

Here are the main bugs discovered in 5.7, that are now fixed:

1. Non-US keyboards
The first serious bug discovered with 5.7 is that non-US keyboard layouts did not work properly. When X first started, any app then started, such as Geany, type into it, and it is US layout. Quit the app and restart it, then layout is correct.
This happens at every bootup.
Extremely annoying, and we have narrowed the bug down to an Ubuntu DEB from the 'precise-updates' repository, but we don't know which one yet -- I avoided the problem by reverting to the DEBs used to build 5.6.1.

2. External optical media
Another bug with 5.7, when a user plugged in an external USB optical drive, with media inserted, the drive icon did not appear on the desktop. Fixed.

3. Playing DVD videos
In 5.7, when I tried to play a DVD video with Gnome-Mplayer, just got a blank window. Had to mess around in the Preferences, got it to go.
In Puppy, we like things to "just work". Have fixed it, except for peculiar behaviour with DVD menus -- to get those to work properly, and set the correct video-out mode, just open Preferences window then close it -- yep, that's it, just open and close the Preferences!!!


Posted on 3 Aug 2013, 8:07


Comments:

Posted on 3 Aug 2013, 14:56 by BarryK
Precise 5.7.1 Forum feedback
Forum feedback here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=716688#716688



Posted on 4 Aug 2013, 4:05 by peebee
wifi blocked "feature"
With my Broadcom 4312 wifi....
Precise 5.7.1 k3.9.11 exhibits the wifi blocked on boot "feature" - shared with Slacko 5.5.71 k3.10.1 - necessitates adding "rfkill unblock wlan" to /etc/rc.d/rc.local


Posted on 4 Aug 2013, 5:41 by don570
puppy-rsync
I've written a program to backup 5 folders
using rsync.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87810




Posted on 4 Aug 2013, 13:39 by broomdodger
successful boot Sony VAIO
This is wonderful...
Precise 5.7.1 PAE is the first version since Wary 5.5 that works on these laptops. A little ragged at first, but no problem later.

Barry are the video drivers different?
or is only the kernel different?
How to make sense of this?

Sony VAIO PCG-R505DL
1000 MHz PAE
384 MB ram max!
30 GB hd
sda1 23 GB ntfs WinXP Home - works
sda2 4 GB ext2 Precise 5.7.1 PAE - works
swap 1 GB
video Intel 82830 vga 1024x768

Wary 5.5
This puppy works, no problems.

Precise 5.7.1 PAE
+ the "select keyboard layout" dialog is squished into the upper 2/3 of the screen
+ choose Intel 1024x768 - still upper 2/3 of the screen
+ Test [ok] now full screen
+ then back to black screen in the upper 2/3 of the screen
! surprise! full screen puppy ! its working !
+ save / reboot
- "loading kernel modules" goes to black screen shortly
! but magically puppy reappears full screen
+ mem 186 used, 196 free
+ SM ok, QtWeb ok, Sylpheed ok, vim ok

Precise 5.7.1 retro does NOT work, it stops at a black screen just after "loading kernel modules".

Bill



Posted on 4 Aug 2013, 23:20 by aarf
Mount bug
Cant mount iso with a space in the directory name. In a couple of new puppys.


Posted on 4 Aug 2013, 23:25 by BarryK
Re Sony VAIO
broomdodger,
Everything is the same, except for the kernel.



Posted on 4 Aug 2013, 23:47 by aarf
Space delta
Also affect xdelta clicking the delta wont auto fill the boxes


Posted on 5 Aug 2013, 6:05 by 01micko
@aarf
Maybe SFR's fix does the job for you, I meant to post a link here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=716315#716315


Posted on 5 Aug 2013, 10:35 by aarf
@micko
Thanks micko, will check it out.


Posted on 5 Aug 2013, 14:28 by 01micko
gui filter misses java apps
As the title says, no case for java apps if they are GUI (probably most of them) in petget.

I have a couple in slacko PPM so I'll give them a false one of gtk+2, that should work ok.


Posted on 6 Aug 2013, 5:34 by Jades
Retro version still blowing up on boot on K6-2 500
Tried running Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Retro on K6-2 500 and it;s still bombing out with a kernel panic at the stage where it's switching root. Appears to be exactly the same problem as I reported earlier - something's not compatible with the K6-2 CPU. Boot was pfix-ram, md5sums matched and disc confirmed working on Pentium D machine.

See report on forum.


Posted on 7 Aug 2013, 10:53 by GCMartin
Tested on 8 PCs without issues to desktop operations
I've only tested the PAE versions using JamesBond's boot over LAN process from Slacko and LH64.

All PCs boot, find video, FirstRUN provides accuracy in getting 32bit PCs on desktop to LAN.

All is well, thus far.

Thanks for your contribution(s) to us.


Posted on 7 Aug 2013, 10:57 by GCMartin
PC tests
Opps. Guess PBurn needs some attention. Maybe solution will be in 5.7.2 update?


Posted on 7 Aug 2013, 19:09 by BarryK
Re Pburn
Precise has Pburn 3.7.18, due to the versions of ffmpeg/gtkdialog/cdrkit.

later versions of Pburn will, apparently, not work properly in Precise.

If you have any issues with Pburn, you need to take it up with the author Zigbert on the Forum.



Posted on 11 Aug 2013, 14:26 by broomdodger
alsamixer menu missing
Barry
In the forum:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87712&start=195

I responded to a request for Retrovol Left-Right balance.

I have been using a script:

#!/bin/sh
exec rxvt +sb -g 141x31+0+23 -e alsamixer

Should something like this be in the Multimedia menu?

Bill



Posted on 11 Aug 2013, 14:30 by broomdodger
alsamixer menu missing 2
PS... I also described how to use a right click on the volume control to open the 'Full Window' and use 'shift' and 'ctrl' to change the L-R balance.
Bill



Posted on 12 Aug 2013, 7:33 by GCMartin
Firewall App which come with PUPs
Although I realize that the F/W app is NOT created by BarryK, one thing that has come of increased importance is integration of LAN components on home networks. Printers, NAS, xPhones, xPads, xTvs, etc. not to mentions local subsystems services used by many.

When testing and researching for problems, the F/W gets in the way for things one is testing inbound and outbound of one's PC.

The F/W, though a good one for activation, does make it clear nor has ANY options for turning off the F/W when one wants to test. Its NOT clear how to accomplish this.

Questions
[list][*]Where should a request for a concern like this to be passed on to?
[*]Is is appropriate to have options or a screen which allows activation, deactivation and reset (to original) options for the F/W?[/list]Thanks in advance for any considerations, advice, or guidance.


Posted on 12 Aug 2013, 8:51 by GCMartin
Firewall App which come with SLACKO5.6
The prior blog entry was done PRIOR to my testing Slcako 5.5.91 (precursor to Version 5.6+).

It has an tray option GUI which accomplishes the on/off ability.

Sorry, I had just found this in today's testing.

Thanks to all who contributed to that addition.


Posted on 14 Aug 2013, 7:49 by broomdodger
rtcwake
Has any tried and sucessfully used 'rtcwake' ?
which rtcwake

/usr/sbin/rtcwake


I tried a short test but got an error:
rtcwake -s 33

rtcwake: /dev/rtc not enabled for wakeup events


How to setup '/dev/rtc' ?
rtcwake -h

rtcwake: invalid option -- 'h'
BusyBox v1.21.0 (2013-02-18 15:57:06 WST) multi-call binary.

Usage: rtcwake [-a | -l | -u] [-d DEV] [-m MODE] [-s SEC | -t TIME]

Enter a system sleep state until specified wakeup time

-a,--auto Read clock mode from adjtime
-l,--local Clock is set to local time
-u,--utc Clock is set to UTC time
-d,--device=DEV Specify the RTC device
-m,--mode=MODE Set the sleep state (default: standby)
-s,--seconds=SEC Set the timeout in SEC seconds from now
-t,--time=TIME Set the timeout to TIME seconds from epoch



Posted on 20 Aug 2013, 3:04 by broomdodger
busybox showkey bug
Barry

In '/root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal'
<Key keycode="160">exec:amixer sset Master toggle</Key>
<Key keycode="176">exec:amixer sset Master 1+,1+</Key>
<Key keycode="174">exec:amixer sset Master 1-,1-</Key>
<Key keycode="178">exec:defaultbrowser</Key>
<Key keycode="236">exec:defaultbrowser</Key>
<Key keycode="111">exec:screeny</Key>

Acer Aspire 4315 Master toggle, Master 1+,1+, Master 1-,1-, and screeny all work.

I tried to find the keys for defaultbrowser using xev and showkey, but had a problem with showkey. Should I submit a bug report?

showkey fails with the -k and -s options, the -a option works.

showkey --help
BusyBox v1.21.0 (2013-02-18 15:57:06 WST) multi-call binary.
Usage: showkey [-a | -k | -s]
Show keys pressed
-a Display decimal/octal/hex values of the keys
-k Display interpreted keycodes (default)
-s Display raw scan-codes

showkey -a
Press any keys, program terminates on EOF (ctrl-D):
97 0141 0x61
98 0142 0x62
99 0143 0x63

showkey -k
showkey: KDGKBMODE: Invalid argument

showkey -s
showkey: KDGKBMODE: Invalid argument

Bill



Posted on 20 Aug 2013, 3:57 by broomdodger
re busybox showkey bug
Barry

I got those errors when in X terminal.

'Exit to prompt' and tried again,
this time no errors.

Will explore more.

Bill



Posted on 21 Aug 2013, 24:48 by broomdodger
sony vaio grrr
Sony VAIO VGN-S260
Precise 5.7.1

Another Sony VAIO that does not play well with a new puppy.

This time Precise 5.7.1 runs, but will freeze on shutdown.

This and the other Sony VAIO all work, play and shutdown with Wary 5.5.

Bill



Posted on 25 Aug 2013, 14:07 by bark_bark_bark
Ubuntu 12.04.3
Ubuntu 12.04.3 has been Released


Posted on 4 Sep 2013, 13:32 by broomdodger
jwm key maps
Barry

Where are these 2 keys on a keyboard?
<Key keycode="178">exec:defaultbrowser</Key>
<Key keycode="236">exec:defaultbrowser</Key>

I use F12 in an app, so remapped the Main Puppy menu to the Windows 'Menu' key.

from:
<Key key="F12">root:3</Key>

to:
<Key key="Menu">root:3</Key>

It works.

Is there a reason Puppy does not use the 'Menu' key for the menu?

Bill



Posted on 9 Sep 2013, 16:09 by disciple
"Menu" key
> Is there a reason Puppy does not use the 'Menu' key for the menu?

Eh?
I presume you're not just confused about something here: the "menu" key is not the same as the "Windows" key. It is the one normally to the right of your right hand "Windows" key, and it is to bring up context (right-click) menus without using the mouse. It should work in GTK programs for example. If you use it for the JWM menu then you lose this functionality.


Posted on 9 Sep 2013, 23:04 by L 18 L
re "Menu" key
disciple wrote:
it is to bring up context (right-click) menus without using the mouse.

Thanks for sharing this


Posted on 10 Sep 2013, 3:02 by broomdodger
re "Menu" key
disciple wrote:
it is to bring up context (right-click) menus without using the mouse.

Thank you, I have never used it for contextual menus.

disiple wrote:
the "menu" key is not the same as the "Windows" key

I am referring to the 'Menu' key.
The modifier keys on this acer are:
Control_L, Fn, Super_L, Alt_L, Space, Alt_R, Menu, Control_R

I know the 'Super_L' key is also referred to as the 'Windows' key. It can be mapped:
<Key key="Super_L">root:3</Key>

Does the 'Windows' key (aka 'Super_L') have a use in Puppy Linux?



Posted on 10 Sep 2013, 3:34 by broomdodger
re "Menu" key
I have found another reason to not re-map the 'Menu' key.

Precise 5.7.1 will boot a MacBook, but the MacBook does not have the 'Menu' key.

The MacBook does have the 'Apple' (aka 'Command') key, which xev displays as 'Super_L'. That key can then be mapped to the Puppy menu.

Still? Does the 'Super_L' (aka 'Windows') key have a function in Puppy Linux?



Posted on 13 Sep 2013, 14:39 by disciple
re "Menu" key
That sounds more like a reason not to get a macbook than a reason not to re-map the 'Menu' key :)

I don't think there is any common use for a Super key on a standard Puppy. When I ran Puppy I always remapped it to F13 or something and used it for my own JWM keyboard shortcuts - mainly Win-Alt for switching desktops. I currently use it with different bindings in Openbox. Some window managers do try to replicate all the Windows shortcuts which use it.